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Friday, December 23, 2005
Airband Radios - A Message From Peter
Hi, apologies if this is posted in the wrong place, I've been following this blog for a month or so now and love it, there isn't much information out there now adays.I was wondering if you could advise me on hardware?Currently, I am just outside of the centre of manchester and about 1 or 2 miles off the flight path for aircraft landing at manchester - (need to find out what wind conditions and runway it is for). However I currently use a rather old and trusted Win-108 VHF scanner, i scan through 10 frequencies (Tower x 2 // Approach // Ground x 2 - poor reception :( // 5 FL frequencies).Next year I will be moving about half a mile into a house (I currently live in University Halls) and would really love to get my hands on a new scanner, I was looking at buying a yupiteru mvt-7100 or 7300 scanner, would I see an increase with this if I use a better antenna rather than the "Rubber Duck" that I have with the 108? Also any recommendations on a type of indoor aerial that would be good? or would the standar telescopic antenna be fine?Thank you and sorry for the mass of questions :)
Thanks for the comments on the site Peter, I'm always grateful for some feedback. I remember owning a WIN 108 many years ago, they are a great receiver but definitely a little dated now and I would certainly find 10 memory channels very restrictive.
I was in fact thinking of perhaps selling some scanners myself at some point but I'm not ready for that yet. The Yupiteru is still my scanner of choice at the moment even though I have a Signal R535. The telescopic antenna that is supplied as standard with the Yupi will greatly improve your reception over the WIN 108's rubber duck. The rubber duck antenna's are really only of any use 'on site' at airshows etc. where reception range isn't an issue.
In terms of antenna I am restricted by what my other half will put up with in the bedroom! I currently simply have a length of coax connected to the Yupi's original antenna strategically positioned near the bedroom window where the reception is at it's best. Tip: (always experiment with antenna location if it has to be indoors as you will find a dramatic difference in reception conditions in different locations).
Obviously the 'best' arrangement is to get an antenna outdoors on the roof (something like a 'discone' antenna which provides good gain over a wide range of frequencies). In my old house I had just this arrangement but interestingly my reception is better now with the simple indoor setup simply because of the house location/elevation which is also another factor in the performance you will achieve.
I hope these comments help Peter, I am off to Yorkshire for a week now over the holiday period so I will not be posting till the new year, all my very best for a prosperous new year to all who read and contribute to this site. Mark.
Monday, December 19, 2005
Gatwick Traffic
Thank you again for your help! It was beginning to bug me as i kept hearing it and couldn't figure out what it meant! I have a GRE PSR 282 scanner and my father in law has just put an aerial (skyscan Airmaster i think!?) up on the side of our house for me and i now get to hear 2 way conversations which has greatly improved my listening enjoyment! I can now get Gatwick ground and Tower which i couldn't before! I also tuned in to the London FIS on 124.6 which you recommended in an earlier message and that does make quite interesting listening. I just wish i had more time to spend on it though! One more thing before i sign off, i have a couple of charts (Aerad En Route UK(L)2 and CAA England South Topographical 1:250 000) and i am desperately trying to see what flight routes go over my area as we have planes going over our house most of the day but especially early morning and i am desperate to know what frequency they could be on. I know you mentioned WILLO and frequency 133.175 in an earlier message so is it likely to be that one. Am i looking at the right sort of charts?? Sorry to keep asking but you are my only font of knowledge at the moment and i am very keen to keep learning!! Thank you again!
My reply is as follows:
I would say most of the traffic near you will be working WILLO sector, in fact the WILLO reporting point should be very close to your location and when it's busy that controller (133.175) is responsible for 'stacking' aircraft in a holding pattern around WILLO. A lot of the traffic inbound from the south will be entering the area from the LUCCO reporting point on the east side of the Isle Of Wight and from there taken eastward toward WILLO before being handed off to Gatwick director on 126.825. If not holding, the 'standing agreement' handoff altitude is FL90.
Aircraft outbound from Heathrow and Gatwick heading south out of the UK will be handed straight to WILLO on departure and should be climbed to FL170 and routed to the BOGNA reporting point which is actually about 8 miles out in the channel to the south of Shoreham and from there, handed to the next sector.
As regards charts, when I was regularly flying, the most popular chart for VFR (visual flight rules -ie. navigation by means of landmarks) was the 1:500000 scale. Commercial pilots will use the Aerad type charts and there are usually high and low altitude versions of these for a given area which detail the commercial routes and reporting points etc.
Sunday, December 18, 2005
A question from Caz......
Hello its Caz again! A quick question, what does it mean when pilots say 'We are a Boeing 777 (understand that bit!) with information Lima? or Romeo? or Papa?' It always seems to be a different letter but i just don't understand what that bit means & i can't find it anywhere in my books!
This relates to the continuous weather broadcast given out on a dedicated frequency at airports. Remember my post regarding Gatwick frequencies mentions the 'ATIS' frequency of 136.525? ATIS stand for 'automatic terminal information service' - it is a continuous broadcast of the current weather conditions at that airport and it is typically updated every 20 to 30 minutes. This is just an example, but say the weather broadcast at 8am in the morning is known as 'information alpha' when it is next updated at say, 8.30am it becomes 'information bravo' and so it goes on throughout the day until the update becomes 'information zulu' and it then starts all over again at 'information alpha'. When an aircraft calls approach control and advises his aircraft type along with 'information alpha' for example, the controller immediately knows which weather broadcast the pilot has listened in to on the ATIS frequency. If there has been a further update with any changes in weather conditions this will be reported to the pilot.
I hope I have explained this clearly enough? If there are still any queries please let me know.
Saturday, December 10, 2005
Reply to my Sussex Air Traffic Control post
"Many thanks to your response to my question! My name is Caz, the person who lives south of Gatwick and just a few miles from the South Downs. I have quite a few questions but am a bit pushed for time right now as i have a young daughter who is getting a little bored! but many thanks for answering my initial question, it is extremely helpful and i think this site is a great idea. I will make contact again soon".
Just thought I'd put the responce on the main page, it's nice to get some feedback, please stop by regularly and ask away with those questions when you've got time!
Tuesday, December 06, 2005
London FIS (Flight Information Service)
It can make very interesting listening at times. Also because the service is transmitted through various repeaters in order to cover the UK it is possible to listen to aircraft at low level even if they are 200 miles or more away!
Friday, December 02, 2005
Sussex ATC Frequencies
Just in case you don't have the Gatwick frequencies here they are:
Approach Primary 126.825
Approach 118.95
129.02
135.575
ATIS 136.525
Clearances 121.95
Ground 121.8
Tower 124.225 Primary
134.225
As regards airways frequencies, you are right underneath the 'WILLO' sector which extends from surface to FL175 frequency: 133.175.
Above this are sectors S18 FL175 to FL255 (extending to FL335 over the channel).
Then S25 FL255 to FL305 and finally S1 FL305 to FL660.
I think there was also a question regarding oceanic clearance frequencies. There are two frequencies, one for aircraft registered west of 30W ie. US aircraft etc. which is 123.95 and for aircraft registered East of 30W ie. european aircraft the frequency is 127.65.
Well I hope thats useful, thats all I have time for right now. Please keep posting and let me know what you think about the site and what else you might like to see here. Thanks all, Mark.
Tuesday, November 01, 2005
Military ATC over Matlock Derbyshire
Thursday, October 27, 2005
Blackpool Frequencies
Approach: 119.95
Radar: 135.95
ATIS: 121.75
Tower: 118.4
As regards the surrounding airspace, the Isle Of Man Sector covers the Blackpool area from surface to FL195 (Manchester control). Further to the west of Blackpool this sector extends to FL245 and operates on: 133.05. Above this are sectors S3 & S4 as mentioned in my previous post regarding Lancs area frequencies.
I request for information has also been posted as follows:
"where can i get an digital adaptor for my analogue REALISTIC PRO 2042please? "
I'm afraid I can't help on this one but if any other reader can, please post a reply.
Thanks all.
Tuesday, October 11, 2005
East Lancashire ATC Frequencies
The first three sectors are Manchester controlled sectors as follows:
NORTH LOW surface to FL165 Freq: 125.1
NORTH HIGH FL165 to FL195 Freq: 125.95
S29 (or sector 29) FL195 to FL285 Freq: 118.775
Any or all of these may be 'bandboxed' together on any of the frequencies quoted when traffic is light.
The Swanwick controlled sectors above these are as follows:
S3 FL290 - FL330 Freq: 129.1
S4 FL340 and above Freq: 131.05
again these could be bandboxed together depending on traffic levels.
Hope this info is useful, please keep the questions coming, however I am off to the sunshine of Rhodes on Saturday 15th October for 1 week so after Friday I will not be posting next week. Thanks all.
Monday, October 03, 2005
Re; Atmospherics
'I have just read your comments on atmospheric conditions last year sometime (one Sunday morning I recall), I experienced the same type of reception from Heathrow, and in fact could hear delivery and ground frequencies in Staffordshire. Well, a strange coincedence, because early this morning (3/10/05)I was receiving the same high clarity reception,but only down to tower frequencies. Could a contributing factor be associated with the QNH ? pretty high today 1031.My radio equipment is Signal R535 ,Yupiteru 7100 , and AR8600 Mk11 for VHF linked to a external discone and dedicated Airband antenna.'
Thanks for the info Dave, have not listened much myself today so haven't experienced todays conditions. Thanks for info on your set up. I wonder how you find the R535 next to the Yupi? personally I find very little difference in their sensitivity. I've never owned an AOR receiver so would be interested to know how this performs alongside your other radios. Please get back to me if you have time.
Friday, September 30, 2005
Air Traffic Where You Live
Monday, September 26, 2005
An Interesting Frequency
Sunday, September 25, 2005
Just A Note To Say....
Wednesday, September 14, 2005
Best 'On Site' Scanner
Well, my favorite at the moment is my little Icom IC-R2, its very robust and truly fits in your pocket. Connect a good earpiece and it's ideal. I know there is now an Icom IC-R5 (which I have owned), but there is very little difference between them (more memories & alpha tagging with the IC-R5). Because the IC-R2 has been superseded, you can get them quite cheap on ebay, I bought mine for about £70 and Im sure it was actually brand new! The only thing I would say is that, because there are very few buttons on these tiny scanners, it can be difficult at first to remember the key combinations needed to enter frequencies into memory etc. and you may find yourself constantly referring back to the manual to start with.
Br warned! the Icoms don't scan nearly as fast as scanners such as the Yupiteru MVT7100. I have measured it at about 10 channels per second (Yupi around 25 channels p/s) but how many frequencies do you scan particularly when your at an airfield anyway? maybe 20 or 30 at the most right? so, It shouldn't be a major problem.
I noted that you would like to listen in on your visits to Donna Nook range Pete, for your info the frequencies I have for Donna Nook are as follows:
Primary Hold: 340.15Mhz
Primary Join: 342.175Mhz
Saturday, September 03, 2005
My Airband Listening Set Up
Monday, August 15, 2005
Bruntingthorpe - A Unique Experience
Very often other aircraft will visit on these open days and there is also sporadic weekend flying activity. Seems a shame it doesn't see much flying activity these days with such a huge runway. The owner, a dedicated enthusiast has put forward plans for a freight airport in the past but to no avail.
By the way, their air/ground frequency is: 122.825.
Tuesday, August 09, 2005
Air To Air Frequencies
Monday, August 01, 2005
Atmospherics & The Civil Airband
Thursday, July 28, 2005
Signal R535
Thursday, July 21, 2005
Stoke Golding Airfield
P.S. Take a look at Stoke Goldings own web site at http://www.StokeGoldingAirfield.co.uk
Friday, July 15, 2005
Emergency Call
Tuesday, July 12, 2005
East Midlands Airport (EGNX)
East Mids Frequencies:
Ground: 121.9
ATIS: 128.225
Tower: 124.00
Radar: 120.125 (not used much)
Approach: 134.175
Commercial Dep's to the North are transferred to Manchester Trent sector on: 133.4 / 134.425 / 133.8 (depending on which sectors are 'bandboxed' together.)
South dep's are transferred straight to London Terminal Control Welin sector now on 130.925.
Thursday, July 07, 2005
Duxford
Monday, July 04, 2005
Back From Waddington
VHF air show tower: 132.9
VHF ground: 122.1
Military traffic tended to use the normal ground (342.125) and tower (370.125) frequencies at Waddington.
There was some traffic on 134.55 although I didn't monitor it much it seemed to be used as an 'ops' frequency.
Its always worth entering all six 'common' air show frequencies which I have listed in an earlier post into memory channels and scanning when at an air show.
Wednesday, June 29, 2005
Signal R535 Has Arrived!
Tuesday, June 28, 2005
Portsmouth
Sorry it's short notice, got passed to you from another site. Have you a rough idea what frequencies may be used at the Royal fleet review at portsmouth today?There is some aircraft6 activity from about 3.00pm.Thanx in advance,Dave.
I reply: Im afraid Im not sure Dave but here's a few air to ship freqs. I have listed:
230.075 NATO Fleet
231.275 " "
315.175 " "
233.15 Ark Royal
283.3 " "
336.15 " "
345.45
260.1 Invincible
342.05 " "
375.85 " "
350.55 " "
237.85 Illustrious
280.15 " "
345.825 RN NET
350.15 RN
356.4 RN Safety
357.95 Deck Landings
Anybody else help with more relevent info please post here. Thanks - Mark
Monday, June 27, 2005
Re: Waddington
Hi, thanks for the Waddington Freqs. Will these be in use this year do we know, or are we likely to see standard display freqs. in place?? Also, do you have any Sqadron ops. frequencies, both discreet and display use for the show this year??Thanks in advance!!
In Reply: I'm just not sure on the display frequency, my previous post lists some 'common' allocated display frequencies, might be worth checking these at the show. I have the following frequencies which are ops frequencies I have listed for Waddington based units:
259.65 AWACS/magic ops
374.5 Wing Ops
253.35 Ops maintenance
364.725 Ops 51 Squadron (nimrod)
378.8 NOMAD ops
Dont forget also the Red Arrows nearly always use 243.45 as an air to air display frequency.
Hope this helps & thanks for the question.
Some Interesting Airband Frequencies
Airshows:
121.175
130.625
132.9
130.5
130.675
134.55
Balloons:
122.475
Gliders:
129.9 (also balloons & Paradrop fields) eg. Langar
129.975 eg. Husbands Bosworth
130.1
130.125
130.4
Microlights:
129.825
Airport Fire Services:
121.6
Saturday, June 25, 2005
RAF FAIRFORD
Ground: 259.975
Tower: 119.15 / 337.575
METRO (weather) 257.75 (as Mildenhall & Lakenheath)
Radar is operated by RAF Brize Norton:
123.55
127.25
124.275
342.45
311.825
277.35
376.625
119.0
Any of these could possibly be used!
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Friday, June 24, 2005
Air Traffic Control
Thursday, June 23, 2005
Icom Ic-R2 has arrived!
Tuesday, June 21, 2005
Icom Scanner Purchased
Monday, June 20, 2005
Re: Waddington Air Show
I have 388.225Mhz for the Tower, is it now 370.125Mhz or are both used?Any idea if they will use these frequencies for the show or will they use a temporary air display frequency?Looking forward to seeing the Hungarian MiG-29 display at Waddington.Dave
In answer: Hi Dave, Yes I remember the tower being 388.225 but it changed maybe a year or two ago now. With regard to temporary airshow frequencies, Im not sure as I haven't been to Waddington for a couple of years. Maybe another reader can help with that one?
Waddington Air Show
Approach: 312.5Mhz/127.35Mhz
Director: 300.575Mhz
Departures: 249.85Mhz
Tower: 370.125Mhz/
VHF Tower tends to be the NATO standard tower frequency of 122.1Mhz.
These tend to be the main frequencies. There are also squadron ops frequencies etc. if anybody wants these please let me know by posting here.
If you have any other information on Waddington, again, please post it here.
Friday, June 17, 2005
New Radio Scanner
Thursday, June 16, 2005
Lakenheath Military Air Traffic
Tuesday, June 14, 2005
Icom IC-R20 Scanner
Monday, June 13, 2005
Mildenhall
New Frequency Allocation?
Friday, June 10, 2005
My Airband Listening History
My name is Mark Graham and I have created this site in the hope that it might become a place for fellow airband enthusiasts to share information on all matters related to airband listening, Inc. information on scanners, reception, frequencies and events etc.
I have been airband listening for some 27 years now (started at 12, now 39 years old) my first radio being a simple 'multiband receiver' which tuned the entire VHF band in about 2cm of travel. Later I had a small 'Sharp' radio that allowed more accurate tuning and had an LED light indicating the signal strength ( I thought this was fantastic at the time). My other radios/scanners have included a Signal R537s, WIN108, Signal R535 (should NEVER have sold that one!) an ICOM IC-R10 (not impressed) and also Yupiteru MVT 5000, 7000 & 7100. Very recently I tried an Icom IC-R5 which was surprisingly impressive for such a tiny radio. My current receiver is the Yupiteru MVT7100. Although it doesn't have all the 'bells & whistles' of more modern scanners I think It is still the best for raw reception quality and ease of use. If anybody knows of a newer model that beats or matches the Yupi I'd be very happy to here from you!
I also managed to gain my Uk Private Pilots Licence in 1991 and later IMC (instrument meteorological conditions) rating & night ratings. After some 250 logged hours, in 2003 I finally gave up flying as the pressures of family & mortgage stretched my finances.
Well, that's enough about me for now, If you have anything to share with fellow airbanders please do hit the comments button at the bottom right and post it here. Thanks for reading.
Mark Graham